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Tahoe owner thats me
06-02-2010 10:46:27 AM CST
I agree leon yes IF him hit them if you wathced how the tahoe raced he was slowing down each time through the X. Most of the cars that got taken out were from other cars not the Tahoe. I know Rick and I trust his judgement. I know the fact that he is not going to hit anyone on purpose to end their lives. The track official's allowed it and that all that matters. We dropped that truck as much as we could to not have it sitting tall. we could of ran it with the 33's it had on it before but we did not. We are also trying to drop it more so there is a less chance of someone getting hurt.Trust me I think rick was more worried about one of these other drivers rolling him over. Thank god no one was severly hurt during any of the races. I think there should be some sort of truck race just for them yes that would be some good action. but I do not run the track. I think it would be good to see trucks out there. Some are just as fast a the cars out there.
Leon 13K enduro
06-02-2010 10:00:51 AM CST
i dont think ANYONE goes out to hurt people however when you have an SUV going threw that cross and you can not see ANYTHING your driver is going to kill someone. i truly hope if the tahoo races again the other drivers just pull off the track because its not safe to put that kind of automobile in a race when your barreling down on a drivers side door. The flag pole race i dont really have an issue with and i dont think most of the other driver have an issue with that. it just becomes a problem when your drivers door is facing that kind of impact. Read what Flagpoler#97 wrote about the car being caved in. that was from a ford taurus. you cant survive that kind of crash if its in the drivers side. the only thing that tahoo would do in a drivers door wreck is insure that the poor guy that gets hit wouldn't suffer very long... now think about that and dont ignore that feeling you SHOULD have just got in your stoumic thinking about what COULD happen.
06-02-2010 9:54:38 AM CST
Flagpole97. Becareful what you wish for because we also have the video your brother kept on trying to spin the Toyz truck you got what you deserve and so didn't your brother. race clean and he will race clean I known that guy a long time he not a bad person he is not out there with bad intent he just wants to win just like you. I hope!!
Tahoe owner Thats me
06-02-2010 9:47:13 AM CST
I will say the driver of the Tahoe Rick who is a good friend of mine drives not to hurt people but to race and he did just that. Proud the Tahoe drove home unlike most of the other cars. I own it and will have him go out in it again! It was a fast truck and if we did not lose oil pressure he would of had a good chance to win it all. See you soon Toyz Racing!!
06-02-2010 6:27:27 AM CST
Cant blame the driver of the tahoo. The track officials AT ANY POINT have the opportunity to not allow such things. What it comes down to is the people in the tower and the flag guy "see what they want to see" and "ignore what they want to ignore". The figure8 isnt new. They all know the consequences of racing on a dry track. They also know the consequences of allowing for an SUV to enter that type of race. Those cars sat in the infield for quite some time while the grand enduro car drivers took pictures. During that time the track officials could have determined it was unsafe to allow the SUV to ride with the rest of them. BUT it makes for "good racing" from an action standpoint and theyre compromising the safety of the drivers.
06-02-2010 6:21:48 AM CST
I like pictures!!!!!!!!!
06-01-2010 9:54:50 PM CST
and i agree with leon like i said in friends with that kid and i gave him the car to race i junked it this morning and had a hard time cutting the cat out because the subframe was bent into the exauhst which pushed into the oil pan and the shock tower was into the altinator the roof had to have been a foot higher and the whole dash was wrecked i also picked up rickys car who is the one who hit him and that engine got pushed into the fire wall and he hit so hard the rear seat came off the top and bottom i can put up pics if anyone wants them
06-01-2010 9:50:05 PM CST
roland theres a hude differance between i little toyota and a big ass tahoe and 4 wheel drive that aint fair if he wants to see how it is we can just bring out a flatbed while hes in the tahoe figure 8 racer is my buddy and he doesnt care he got hit thats y we do the figure 8 but its nice to know when your getting hit it needs to be wet down and i wouldnt care it it was dusty if i was in a huge ass tahoe either that same guy #151 toys brought 4 wheel drive pickups um and put my brother off the backstrech u can see in the video that hes in 4 wheel its just not fair idc ill hit him he can hit me to but not in the figure 8
Leon 13K enduro
06-01-2010 8:46:26 PM CST
last fall the figure 8 race was good cause we had a TON of rain the night before and it just got muddy so the dust wasnt an issue. fun to watch. We sat in the stands eagerly waiting for that Figure 8 race untill the heard of cars and the tahoo made it back to the center cross for the first lap. it was obvious that it was no longer fun to (try to) watch. we couldnt see and more dangerously, the drivers coudlnt see anything and it was obvious cause you would see some guys slam on brakes AFTER a near miss in the cross. Had any of the bigger cars made a driver door hit into someone the way the taurus got hit we WOULD have seen someone die. no question about it. I was in the pits and saw the car. the passengers side door was caved in almost to the transmission tunnel. the unibody was folded up. Hell, the drivers side doors didnt line up right anymore cause of how hard it got hit. Its nice to se rough and tumble racing but this was a serious safety issue. By the way the flag pole guess did great this week
06-01-2010 8:16:38 PM CST
i gotta say that was probably the cleanest flagpole race ive been in,good to hear there was talk about the door hits,i usually dont stop for much as you can see by my car,but when i saw the tahoe i gave him the 'after you' wave on. i didnt need the bowtie emblem embedded in my helmet,the track let you on,you ran clean(from what i saw),but if some YAHOO gets himself one i'd hate to see what could happen! as for the figure 8 im not alone in saying the track should be watered down,not the race!wasnt much fun waiting for the inevitable thud that brought out the red! any way who's has a mid '90's tempo,taurus,or topaz running or not they want to get rid of ??? i need a couple of things!!
06-01-2010 8:03:28 PM CST
i gotta say that was probably the cleanest flagpole race i\\
06-01-2010 7:48:36 PM CST
i think the track should have been watered down the infield so everyone could see the race would have been more enjoyable to watch,as for the tahoe,they let in big cars with little cars in the flagpole and no one complains
figure 8 racer
06-01-2010 7:39:17 PM CST
ok rolland first off all i dont mind takein a hit if u can tell i climbed right outta that car and if the thing ran i would have been back out there all im sayin is they track should be wet down if that was a drivers door hit it could kill sumone and they tahoe shouldnt be out there period there is a huge size differnce between the two cars and it could seriously hurt sumone like urself if u took the wrong hit
06-01-2010 5:07:20 PM CST
Well that was one heck of a weekend! I hope everyone had a great time. I am so glad to know that you are alright figure 8 racer, that was a hard hit! I agree that the Tahoe should not have been allowed to go out on that track. I don't know why they let the race continue after that even the flagman could'nt see what was going on. I wonder if the people in the tower that tell him what to do could see more than us fan could.
06-01-2010 5:05:53 PM CST
figure 8 racer if u dont want to get hit dont go in the figure 8 and if it wasto dusty u could have left the race just as easy. not a big deal. no rick in the tahoe and the rest of us dont know any 1 it wasa registered and inspected truck. u didnt see him smashing people in the flag pole race or the figure 8 the two of us were out there to racenot to smash like every one els
figure 8 racer
06-01-2010 4:34:07 PM CST
ok so i nearly cheated death this weekend the hit i tokk was pretty hard.. i can tell everyone one thing i wont be racein another figure 8 there unless they water down the track. and i think them lettin a tahoe race with a bunch of cars is total bull.. if that thing hit one of us we would have beeen in the hosp no doubt. and the olny reason they let him out there is cuz he know some body
Jason Carroll firstname.lastname@example.org
06-01-2010 12:11:21 PM CST
Zombie, glad you liked the cookies!
06-01-2010 11:24:05 AM CST
Still looking for a integra , civic or crx. Preferably under $500 let me know what you have and i can email or call you.
Leon 13K enduro
06-01-2010 9:40:03 AM CST
There is nothing wrong with what Recon has for cars.. they ARE enduro cars. the 53 is an enduro car as well. As far as i can tell their are NO RULES for the enduro. except drained radiator, muffler and no mirrors. (the latter being total bullshit if you ask me but thats just my opinion. had we had a mirror in the 13K we wouldnt have got driven into on lap 1) Jesse tellier ran a road runner car in the enduro and no one cared. the Red saab had 50 series tires with a treadwear rating of like 40 and i didnt hear anyone cry about that. we even had a Honda Del Sol out there (a 2 seater sports car) and no one made a big deal about it. Enduros are a run what ya brung race. im glad that we dont have guys dumping each other for fun like other tracks.
06-01-2010 8:17:29 AM CST
whats the point in having a flag guy if he throws black flags when he shouldnt and doesnt throw a caution when he should?
06-01-2010 7:02:11 AM CST
im pretty sure that the enduro rules and the original rookie stock rules were the same
06-01-2010 5:45:48 AM CST
I believe the "ex-rookie" cars you are talking about, the camaro as well as the montes, are actually enduros cars that found their way into the rookies last year just so that they could have a weekly division to race in. If you remember that they were in the rookies, you should also remember that they were in the back. Those guys seem to throw their cars out into any race they car...probably just looking for as many laps as they can get. If you have complaints why don't you walk over to them in the pits and have a talk with them or take a look under their hoods. They seem like nice enough guys to me in the pits, and I'm pretty sure they are running stock 350s. Police package is police package, theres nothing wrong with that in an enduro. Some guys have just had their cars longer and now how to set them up. Nothing in the enduros rules that says you gotta run a crappy set up. Those guys my be running in the lowly enduro division, but don't think for a second that they aren't busting their butts trying to get everything they can out of their cars like any other driver in any other divison. Just my two cents.
06-01-2010 3:31:11 AM CST
cop motor,cop tires, cop suspension,who wouldnt run that ,thats a lucky find!,but the monte is set up,along with the other monte's out there and camaro! i guess thats what 'enduro cars' are these days 'ex rookie/street stock cars,wish i could afford to build one!
05-31-2010 10:38:08 PM CST
Was a really nice day ..loved everything but the figure 8 race ..I was afraid for the people in that one! Got one question for everyone how do you feel about adults egging on their children on to make other racers "small" children cry at a family race track? Everyone goes their to see Dads, Uncles and other family members race..I didn't realize that kids are the targets? Just throwing this out to see how you guys feel about this ..I have gone for years and was always just known that everyone raced had a good time..the winner was the winner and everyone taught their kids to be good sports? not bully little ones..hmmm
05-31-2010 8:32:52 PM CST
I have to say both my cars are "enduro cars" The orange XXX is 100% stock Ex state trooper car. and the black monte is a enduro built car. I love the enduros just wish more cars came to race. I have raced against SHO's before and with a little tweaking they can be fast cars. Don't give up! Go out and have fun that what this is all about.